Possibly German, around 1870s (I think)

by Sue

Can you help to identify these dolls? They belonged to my grandmother. I have compared them to others I have seen online, and my best guess is that they are German, from around 1870. (I am interested in selling them but I do not know enough about them to determine value.)

Doll #1: split open where chest attaches to fabric, looks like sawdust inside, shoes painted (small, heels), hair firmly glued, no markings except maybe a faint "9" and "1" on the backside of shoulder blades, wearing pantaloons, ribbon in hair, hands have fused fingers

Doll #2: shoes painted (small, heels), hair firmly glued, no markings except maybe a faint "9" and "1" on the backside of shoulder blades, skirt is stitched directly to doll around waist, two bows on dress but the one on the left hand side of the picture is not attached, ribbon in hair, hands have fused fingers